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		<title>Comment on The Boob Tube by Chance Darling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chance Darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 05:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man o man! My wife tried anal bleaching and absolutely loved it. Its was strange that after 4 years of marrige our sparks began to fly again, I strongly feel that it was due to her enchanced confidence with her new body image. Shes always been stubborn and somewhat of a perfectionst with a keen eye for detail, so naturally she was prone to some mild body identity issues. Anal bleaching is exactly what she was looking for and we couldnt be happier with the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man o man! My wife tried anal bleaching and absolutely loved it. Its was strange that after 4 years of marrige our sparks began to fly again, I strongly feel that it was due to her enchanced confidence with her new body image. Shes always been stubborn and somewhat of a perfectionst with a keen eye for detail, so naturally she was prone to some mild body identity issues. Anal bleaching is exactly what she was looking for and we couldnt be happier with the results.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waking People Up, pt. II: Because There’s a War on For Your Mind   Michael Kackman / Independent Scholar by David Uskovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Uskovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 23:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, sorry to be late to the party, Dr. Kackman, but I enjoyed both this and the first part of the article. I think it&#039;s important to include right wing micro broadcasting under the &quot;alternative media&quot; banner which, as you point out, has come to figure as  strictly left wing media practice within media studies circles. Actually, John Downing has noted that white nationalist and para military groups favor short wave radio because it leaves little trace (sorry, I don&#039;t have the citation handy). 

As you point out, global conspiracy theories circulate throughout the fringes of the political spectrum. I&#039;ve personally known folks who espouse states&#039; rights and ending the Fed who do not think of themselves as right wing or Tea Partiers or some such, but think of themselves as left-ish but most especially countercultural rebels who stand for individual &quot;freedom.&quot; 

The strange appearance of the same ideas among politically disparate groups is fascinating and happens all over the Internet. I&#039;m thinking of the user comments that accompany politically-oriented videos posted to YouTube. I&#039;m thinking of videos about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and 9/11 Truth, but there are many others. 

Like the title to your article, one phrase that often shows up in the comments accompanying the videos is &quot;wake up!&quot; It is often used to dismiss another commenter&#039;s ideas as ignorant, as, in fact, displaying false consciousness about the &quot;true&quot; state of the world. This seems to be what happened with Jones and Chomsky. In this scenario, disagreement is not a matter of point of view, but a matter of being hoodwinked by the big lie. It seems like popular political discourse turns on an assumption that one&#039;s opponent in the debate hasn&#039;t woken up to the truth and is arguing from a place of false consciousness, of not being able to see what&#039;s &quot;really&quot; going on. 

On a similar note: if, for example, the same idea can be embraced by differing ideologies, sometimes the idea&#039;s ideology can be up for grabs. A few years ago, Amy Goodman, host of _Democracy Now_, came under fire from the 9/11 Truth groups, who accosted her at book signings and other events. There are videos of this on YouTube as well. I distinctly remember one YT user posting a comment to one of these videos that read something like, &quot;It&#039;s disappointing she won&#039;t get behind 9/11 Truth being that she&#039;s supposedly such a liberal.&quot; 

I wonder if Jerome Bruner&#039;s conceptualization of narrative as a cultural toolkit is helpful here. As Hofstadter suggests, down here at the bottom of the sociopolitical hierarchy we see only power&#039;s effects, not its mechanisms. Maybe 9/11 Truth and the New World Order and international bankers are, as per Bruner, part of a narrative that helps us make sense of and control that which seems so far out of our control. Is this why Jones and the 9/11 Truthers react so strongly to Chomsky and Goodman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, sorry to be late to the party, Dr. Kackman, but I enjoyed both this and the first part of the article. I think it&#8217;s important to include right wing micro broadcasting under the &#8220;alternative media&#8221; banner which, as you point out, has come to figure as  strictly left wing media practice within media studies circles. Actually, John Downing has noted that white nationalist and para military groups favor short wave radio because it leaves little trace (sorry, I don&#8217;t have the citation handy). </p>
<p>As you point out, global conspiracy theories circulate throughout the fringes of the political spectrum. I&#8217;ve personally known folks who espouse states&#8217; rights and ending the Fed who do not think of themselves as right wing or Tea Partiers or some such, but think of themselves as left-ish but most especially countercultural rebels who stand for individual &#8220;freedom.&#8221; </p>
<p>The strange appearance of the same ideas among politically disparate groups is fascinating and happens all over the Internet. I&#8217;m thinking of the user comments that accompany politically-oriented videos posted to YouTube. I&#8217;m thinking of videos about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and 9/11 Truth, but there are many others. </p>
<p>Like the title to your article, one phrase that often shows up in the comments accompanying the videos is &#8220;wake up!&#8221; It is often used to dismiss another commenter&#8217;s ideas as ignorant, as, in fact, displaying false consciousness about the &#8220;true&#8221; state of the world. This seems to be what happened with Jones and Chomsky. In this scenario, disagreement is not a matter of point of view, but a matter of being hoodwinked by the big lie. It seems like popular political discourse turns on an assumption that one&#8217;s opponent in the debate hasn&#8217;t woken up to the truth and is arguing from a place of false consciousness, of not being able to see what&#8217;s &#8220;really&#8221; going on. </p>
<p>On a similar note: if, for example, the same idea can be embraced by differing ideologies, sometimes the idea&#8217;s ideology can be up for grabs. A few years ago, Amy Goodman, host of _Democracy Now_, came under fire from the 9/11 Truth groups, who accosted her at book signings and other events. There are videos of this on YouTube as well. I distinctly remember one YT user posting a comment to one of these videos that read something like, &#8220;It&#8217;s disappointing she won&#8217;t get behind 9/11 Truth being that she&#8217;s supposedly such a liberal.&#8221; </p>
<p>I wonder if Jerome Bruner&#8217;s conceptualization of narrative as a cultural toolkit is helpful here. As Hofstadter suggests, down here at the bottom of the sociopolitical hierarchy we see only power&#8217;s effects, not its mechanisms. Maybe 9/11 Truth and the New World Order and international bankers are, as per Bruner, part of a narrative that helps us make sense of and control that which seems so far out of our control. Is this why Jones and the 9/11 Truthers react so strongly to Chomsky and Goodman?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Film, Nostalgia, and The Digital Divide  Wheeler Winston Dixon / University of Nebraska-Lincoln by Wheeler Winston Dixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheeler Winston Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 21:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I wrote this essay, Christopher Nolan has come out forcibly in favor film, for as he notes, digital will take care of itself, but it would be nice to have a choice. As Nolan pointed out in a recent DGA interview with Jeffrey Ressner,

&quot;For the last 10 years, I’ve felt increasing pressure to stop shooting film and start shooting video, but I’ve never understood why. It’s cheaper to work on film, it’s far better looking, it’s the technology that’s been known and understood for a hundred years, and it’s extremely reliable. I think, truthfully, it boils down to the economic interest of manufacturers and [a production] industry that makes more money through change rather than through maintaining the status quo. We save a lot of money shooting on film and projecting film and not doing digital intermediates. In fact, I’ve never done a digital intermediate. Photochemically, you can time film with a good timer in three or four passes, which takes about 12 to 14 hours as opposed to seven or eight weeks in a DI suite. That’s the way everyone was doing it 10 years ago, and I’ve just carried on making films in the way that works best and waiting until there’s a good reason to change. But I haven’t seen that reason yet.

I’ve kept my mouth shut about this for a long time and it’s fine that everyone has a choice, but for me the choice is in real danger of disappearing. So right before Christmas [2011] I brought some filmmakers together [which included Edgar Wright, Joe Dante, Michael Bay, and Bryan Singer to name a few] and showed them the prologue for &lt;em&gt;The Dark Knight Rises&lt;/em&gt; that we shot on IMAX film, then cut from the original negative and printed. I wanted to give them a chance to see the potential, because I think IMAX is the best film format that was ever invented. It’s the gold standard and what any other technology has to match up to, but none have, in my opinion. The message I wanted to put out there was that no one is taking anyone’s digital cameras away. But if we want film to continue as an option, and someone is working on a big studio movie with the resources and the power to insist [on] film, they should say so. I felt as if I didn’t say anything, and then we started to lose that option, it would be a shame. When I look at a digitally acquired and projected image, it looks inferior against an original negative anamorphic print or an IMAX one.&quot; 

You can read the entire interview at the website below; all I can say is that here&#039;s someone who has completely embraced CGI and the effects it can produce, but who is still convinced that film has a unique quality that nothing can really duplicate. If the possibility of using film is lost, it will be a significant blow to the art of the movies.

Here&#039;s the link to the complete DGA interview: 

http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1202-Spring-2012/DGA-Interview-Christopher-Nolan.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I wrote this essay, Christopher Nolan has come out forcibly in favor film, for as he notes, digital will take care of itself, but it would be nice to have a choice. As Nolan pointed out in a recent DGA interview with Jeffrey Ressner,</p>
<p>&#8220;For the last 10 years, I’ve felt increasing pressure to stop shooting film and start shooting video, but I’ve never understood why. It’s cheaper to work on film, it’s far better looking, it’s the technology that’s been known and understood for a hundred years, and it’s extremely reliable. I think, truthfully, it boils down to the economic interest of manufacturers and [a production] industry that makes more money through change rather than through maintaining the status quo. We save a lot of money shooting on film and projecting film and not doing digital intermediates. In fact, I’ve never done a digital intermediate. Photochemically, you can time film with a good timer in three or four passes, which takes about 12 to 14 hours as opposed to seven or eight weeks in a DI suite. That’s the way everyone was doing it 10 years ago, and I’ve just carried on making films in the way that works best and waiting until there’s a good reason to change. But I haven’t seen that reason yet.</p>
<p>I’ve kept my mouth shut about this for a long time and it’s fine that everyone has a choice, but for me the choice is in real danger of disappearing. So right before Christmas [2011] I brought some filmmakers together [which included Edgar Wright, Joe Dante, Michael Bay, and Bryan Singer to name a few] and showed them the prologue for <em>The Dark Knight Rises</em> that we shot on IMAX film, then cut from the original negative and printed. I wanted to give them a chance to see the potential, because I think IMAX is the best film format that was ever invented. It’s the gold standard and what any other technology has to match up to, but none have, in my opinion. The message I wanted to put out there was that no one is taking anyone’s digital cameras away. But if we want film to continue as an option, and someone is working on a big studio movie with the resources and the power to insist [on] film, they should say so. I felt as if I didn’t say anything, and then we started to lose that option, it would be a shame. When I look at a digitally acquired and projected image, it looks inferior against an original negative anamorphic print or an IMAX one.&#8221; </p>
<p>You can read the entire interview at the website below; all I can say is that here&#8217;s someone who has completely embraced CGI and the effects it can produce, but who is still convinced that film has a unique quality that nothing can really duplicate. If the possibility of using film is lost, it will be a significant blow to the art of the movies.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link to the complete DGA interview: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1202-Spring-2012/DGA-Interview-Christopher-Nolan.aspx" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1202-Spring-2012/DGA-Interview-Christopher-Nolan.aspx');" rel="nofollow">http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/.....Nolan.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Gertrude Berg, &#8220;Yoo-Hoo, Mrs. Goldberg,&#8221; and the Re-Discovery of a Television AuteurBernard M. Timberg / University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill by TV, the Auteur, and Quality &#124; J412: TV Criticism</title>
		<link>http://flowtv.org/2009/06/gertrude-berg-yoo-hoo-mrs-goldberg-and-the-re-discovery-of-a-television-auteurbernard-m-timberg-university-of-north-carolina-chapel-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-107012</link>
		<dc:creator>TV, the Auteur, and Quality &#124; J412: TV Criticism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 20:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nothing really that new &#8211; here&#8217;s a piece about a tv auteur in the &#8217;50s &#8211; Gertrude Berg, “Yoo-Hoo, Mrs. Goldberg,” and the Re-Discovery of a Television Auteur Share this:EmailPrintTwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post.    May 19, 2012 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nothing really that new &#8211; here&#8217;s a piece about a tv auteur in the &#8217;50s &#8211; Gertrude Berg, “Yoo-Hoo, Mrs. Goldberg,” and the Re-Discovery of a Television Auteur Share this:EmailPrintTwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post.    May 19, 2012 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sim City or Dream City? Computer Imaging in the Reconstruction of Iraq by edvard</title>
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		<dc:creator>edvard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent idea. Go for it Kurdistan.Be better than the other. If enyone need something ,please ,let me know.
edlorber@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent idea. Go for it Kurdistan.Be better than the other. If enyone need something ,please ,let me know.<br />
<a href="mailto:edlorber@yahoo.com">edlorber@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Do I Love Television So Very Much? by aghhh</title>
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		<dc:creator>aghhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 06:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fuck you bitc hhhhhh se me hace q hasta en la carcel has de estar infeliz por andar de enredadora y piojosa y no te digo mas por que no quiero !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuck you bitc hhhhhh se me hace q hasta en la carcel has de estar infeliz por andar de enredadora y piojosa y no te digo mas por que no quiero !!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Do I Love Television So Very Much? by aghhh</title>
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		<dc:creator>aghhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 06:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is so stupid and this blog with that tv desing is so cheap .. pleae change that .. if you want to make money out of a blog be creative dont take us back to the 40&#039;s when the rainbo..w tv screen this is pure shit ,,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is so stupid and this blog with that tv desing is so cheap .. pleae change that .. if you want to make money out of a blog be creative dont take us back to the 40&#8217;s when the rainbo..w tv screen this is pure shit ,,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Becoming the Other: Multiculturalism in Joss Whedon’s Angel by sema sahin</title>
		<link>http://flowtv.org/2007/12/becoming-the-other-multiculturalism-in-joss-whedon%e2%80%99s-angel/comment-page-1/#comment-107003</link>
		<dc:creator>sema sahin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 09:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bizarre je suis la seul a envoyer des message francaise je t&#039;aime angel t&#039;est trop beau sema sahin  a knutange au 57240</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bizarre je suis la seul a envoyer des message francaise je t&#8217;aime angel t&#8217;est trop beau sema sahin  a knutange au 57240</p>
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		<title>Comment on Becoming the Other: Multiculturalism in Joss Whedon’s Angel by sema sahin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sema sahin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 09:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love you angel t&#039;est le plus beau vraiment dans la serie buffy contre les vampires
t&#039;est exellent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love you angel t&#8217;est le plus beau vraiment dans la serie buffy contre les vampires<br />
t&#8217;est exellent</p>
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		<title>Comment on Everybody Hates Chris and the (Overdue) Return of the Working-Class Sitcom by Giselle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giselle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 12:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todo mundo odeia o chris é o melhor seriado com certeza.
 Aqui no brasil os episódios são bem repetitivos mas toda vez que assistimos rimos do mesmo jeito. o Brasil ama o chris!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todo mundo odeia o chris é o melhor seriado com certeza.<br />
 Aqui no brasil os episódios são bem repetitivos mas toda vez que assistimos rimos do mesmo jeito. o Brasil ama o chris!</p>
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