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		<title>Comment on Pixarvolt – Animation and Revolt by reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunno if the author will ever notice this note, but perhaps it should be noted that the word "Pixar" is in fact the name of a particular movie studio, and is not a generic term for computer-generated animation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno if the author will ever notice this note, but perhaps it should be noted that the word &#8220;Pixar&#8221; is in fact the name of a particular movie studio, and is not a generic term for computer-generated animation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking the Box  by Jeffrey Sconce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Sconce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree there is a certain tendency in media studies to invoke "material" institutions/conditions/techniques as a means of grounding--quite literally--a given reading, theory, analysis, explanation, etc. in a way that is seen as definitive, as if a necessarily contingent understanding of material practice somehow exists wholly outside of language ("in the last instance," to go back to riffing on the "base").  At its worst, this leads to fixing certain industrial zones (producers/studios/networks) as a place of self-evident and stable meaning, a sort of textual headwaters that flows out into the more uncertain terrain of interpretation (in this respect, John Caldwell's new book is a welcome step toward examining how media workers--as the figurative/literal hands at the lever of TV's conveyor belt--conceptualize/fantasize their own identity within "production cultures").

Reading your essay, however, I was also struck by how a program like &lt;em&gt;Conveyor &lt;/em&gt;comes along every so often that--as you point out--becomes "red meat" for media critics who in their real or feigned outrage are trapped between two rhetorical strategies: 1) decrying the program as some new "excessive" transgression in the medium/culture (judged, of course, against some illusory "norm"); and 2). describing the program as a "true" distillation of the genre/medium as a whole (&lt;em&gt;Jersey Shore&lt;/em&gt; would be another good example--a show that either takes &lt;em&gt;The Real World&lt;/em&gt; formula "too far" and/or embodies some core truth about the state of TV, youth, American Culture, etc.).  It is interesting here how certain programs find a way to capture this ambiguity with such clarity--to somehow embody a "literal" truth about the medium by pushing a figurative logic to its extreme.  

As further proof of how these programs can both "cite and enact" literal metaphors, I can imagine approaching &lt;em&gt;Conveyor's&lt;/em&gt; boxes of meaning from the other side of the belt.  Isn't the show also-&lt;em&gt;-quite literally--&lt;/em&gt; about "moving units?"  "Timed units," in Williams' sense of course, but also units of product: eyeballs to advertisers, commodities to consumers, and--to keep things at Channy's level--"units" to "boxes" (in this case a literal metaphor for the equally "real" and "foundational" libidinal economy that underwrites the narrative/industrial economies of the genre as a whole--"Speedo Guy" certainly understood this to be the true purpose of the program!).  In other words, the program's ability to seemingly "demystify" and expose a more material truth behind both the production and consumption sides of commercial television only reaffirms how both are caught up in the same figurative logic of basic Fordism.  Even as Fordism increasingly becomes a distant fiction, it still carries immense power to shape our literal understanding of material determination in the media. 

I guess the question would be the same one leveled at many post-structuralist interventions--after a particular literal/figurative divide has been exposed, noted, collapsed, then what?   And please don't make me say De Man leaves us no opportunity to "think outside the box"--but, in truth, it would appear he doesn't.  I guess this would involve unpacking in a bit more detail your use of Laclau here--especially as his model of hegemony is so different (or at least is perceived as different) from the Gramsci/Hall/CCCS paradigm that has proven so much more dominant in media studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree there is a certain tendency in media studies to invoke &#8220;material&#8221; institutions/conditions/techniques as a means of grounding&#8211;quite literally&#8211;a given reading, theory, analysis, explanation, etc. in a way that is seen as definitive, as if a necessarily contingent understanding of material practice somehow exists wholly outside of language (&#8221;in the last instance,&#8221; to go back to riffing on the &#8220;base&#8221;).  At its worst, this leads to fixing certain industrial zones (producers/studios/networks) as a place of self-evident and stable meaning, a sort of textual headwaters that flows out into the more uncertain terrain of interpretation (in this respect, John Caldwell&#8217;s new book is a welcome step toward examining how media workers&#8211;as the figurative/literal hands at the lever of TV&#8217;s conveyor belt&#8211;conceptualize/fantasize their own identity within &#8220;production cultures&#8221;).</p>
<p>Reading your essay, however, I was also struck by how a program like <em>Conveyor </em>comes along every so often that&#8211;as you point out&#8211;becomes &#8220;red meat&#8221; for media critics who in their real or feigned outrage are trapped between two rhetorical strategies: 1) decrying the program as some new &#8220;excessive&#8221; transgression in the medium/culture (judged, of course, against some illusory &#8220;norm&#8221;); and 2). describing the program as a &#8220;true&#8221; distillation of the genre/medium as a whole (<em>Jersey Shore</em> would be another good example&#8211;a show that either takes <em>The Real World</em> formula &#8220;too far&#8221; and/or embodies some core truth about the state of TV, youth, American Culture, etc.).  It is interesting here how certain programs find a way to capture this ambiguity with such clarity&#8211;to somehow embody a &#8220;literal&#8221; truth about the medium by pushing a figurative logic to its extreme.  </p>
<p>As further proof of how these programs can both &#8220;cite and enact&#8221; literal metaphors, I can imagine approaching <em>Conveyor&#8217;s</em> boxes of meaning from the other side of the belt.  Isn&#8217;t the show also-<em>-quite literally&#8211;</em> about &#8220;moving units?&#8221;  &#8220;Timed units,&#8221; in Williams&#8217; sense of course, but also units of product: eyeballs to advertisers, commodities to consumers, and&#8211;to keep things at Channy&#8217;s level&#8211;&#8221;units&#8221; to &#8220;boxes&#8221; (in this case a literal metaphor for the equally &#8220;real&#8221; and &#8220;foundational&#8221; libidinal economy that underwrites the narrative/industrial economies of the genre as a whole&#8211;&#8221;Speedo Guy&#8221; certainly understood this to be the true purpose of the program!).  In other words, the program&#8217;s ability to seemingly &#8220;demystify&#8221; and expose a more material truth behind both the production and consumption sides of commercial television only reaffirms how both are caught up in the same figurative logic of basic Fordism.  Even as Fordism increasingly becomes a distant fiction, it still carries immense power to shape our literal understanding of material determination in the media. </p>
<p>I guess the question would be the same one leveled at many post-structuralist interventions&#8211;after a particular literal/figurative divide has been exposed, noted, collapsed, then what?   And please don&#8217;t make me say De Man leaves us no opportunity to &#8220;think outside the box&#8221;&#8211;but, in truth, it would appear he doesn&#8217;t.  I guess this would involve unpacking in a bit more detail your use of Laclau here&#8211;especially as his model of hegemony is so different (or at least is perceived as different) from the Gramsci/Hall/CCCS paradigm that has proven so much more dominant in media studies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Not So NewDavid Parry / University of Texas at Dallas by EdwardATeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdwardATeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read through the piece once, but I really wasn't sure of the point.  Have we adapted to technology quickly?  Yes.  That is seven words.  Why all the other words?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read through the piece once, but I really wasn&#8217;t sure of the point.  Have we adapted to technology quickly?  Yes.  That is seven words.  Why all the other words?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Face to Face with the E-Waste of Tomorrow at the 2010 Consumer Electronics ShowMax Dawson / Northwestern University by Jeffrey Sconce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Sconce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting to see how the FCC will begin positioning itself toward this.  It seems unimaginable that they would mandate another
nationwide change anytime in the next 20 years, so perhaps this 3-D innovation would roll out much like the first generation of DVDs--that is, co-existing with the older formats and accessible for a number of years only to early adopters.  

I'm also fascinated by the geography you lay out here--It might be interesting to a longitudinal study of the CES and see how many products at the extreme fringe of the space (both physically and conceptually) eventually make their way closer to the center over 5 to 10 years.  Or is the bar for participating in meaningful CE innovation so high that only an occasional odd ancillary device has a one or two year chance to penetrate  marketing consciousness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see how the FCC will begin positioning itself toward this.  It seems unimaginable that they would mandate another<br />
nationwide change anytime in the next 20 years, so perhaps this 3-D innovation would roll out much like the first generation of DVDs&#8211;that is, co-existing with the older formats and accessible for a number of years only to early adopters.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also fascinated by the geography you lay out here&#8211;It might be interesting to a longitudinal study of the CES and see how many products at the extreme fringe of the space (both physically and conceptually) eventually make their way closer to the center over 5 to 10 years.  Or is the bar for participating in meaningful CE innovation so high that only an occasional odd ancillary device has a one or two year chance to penetrate  marketing consciousness?</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;I See You?&#8221;: Gender and Disability in AvatarMichael Peterson, Laurie Beth Clark, and Lisa Nakamura by Nick Mirzoeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Mirzoeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting piece! One comment from the Dis Studies perspective: great to have a dis/abled character, shame he wasn't played by a dis/abled actor. The stereotype noble savage of the Nav'i extended here, as no Nav'i that we see has any form of visible dis/ability. Another thought might be that the 3-D versions require such an enhanced version of spectatorial immobility à la Mulvey as to constitute a form of cinephiliac impairment, the absolute necessity of not moving, of keeping the eyes slightly out of focus, in the mode of the old stereoscopes. 

I did like the 'blue face' comment in regard to &lt;em&gt;Avatar&lt;/em&gt; as the &lt;em&gt;Jazz Singer 2&lt;/em&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting piece! One comment from the Dis Studies perspective: great to have a dis/abled character, shame he wasn&#8217;t played by a dis/abled actor. The stereotype noble savage of the Nav&#8217;i extended here, as no Nav&#8217;i that we see has any form of visible dis/ability. Another thought might be that the 3-D versions require such an enhanced version of spectatorial immobility à la Mulvey as to constitute a form of cinephiliac impairment, the absolute necessity of not moving, of keeping the eyes slightly out of focus, in the mode of the old stereoscopes. </p>
<p>I did like the &#8216;blue face&#8217; comment in regard to <em>Avatar</em> as the <em>Jazz Singer 2</em>!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Not So NewDavid Parry / University of Texas at Dallas by Tim Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done. I want to share an earlier article I wrote about the same phenomenon, but from a different angle in Flow a few years ago. &lt;a href="http://flowtv.org/?p=157" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here you go &lt;/a&gt;. Best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done. I want to share an earlier article I wrote about the same phenomenon, but from a different angle in Flow a few years ago. <a href="http://flowtv.org/?p=157"  rel="nofollow">Here you go </a>. Best.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Not So NewDavid Parry / University of Texas at Dallas by Kevin Cantu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Cantu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good point!  It is probably about time we started demanding judges and politicians who use and understand these systems...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good point!  It is probably about time we started demanding judges and politicians who use and understand these systems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Not So NewDavid Parry / University of Texas at Dallas by Davin Heckman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davin Heckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a way, I think it is useful to dust off ol' Baudrillard and think a little bit more closely about "the evil demon of images."  I recall reading Baudrillard with much excitement many years ago, but then I kind of stuck him on my shelf and forgot about him.  But lately, when I think about the relationship between programmer/interface/user or that gap between the way things work and the way we use them, Baudrillard seems more important.  If you step back from the visual aspects of Baudrillard, and think about representation in more abstract terms, I think his formulation is relevant (1. it is the reflection of a basic reality.  2. it masks and perverts a basic reality. 3. it masks the absence of a basic reality. 4. it bears no relation to any reality whatever: it is its own pure simulacrum.).  So much of our "new" world relies upon this basic disconnect between what we have and how we got it.  It exists at stage four...  history and the future still exist...  but the discourse of new media pays no mind, except to say that whatever it is that is being sold at a given moment is "new" and "improved" (and worth every sacrifice).

You are right, David Parry, "new" does not really refer to newness, it simply is an attempt to dodge past debts and future obligations.  It refers to a lack of continuity, a general disruption in the chain of causality.  New media, like the new economy, is not really new in any strict sense.  Rather, these are phenomena that are to be understood as phenomena that exist outside of the long chain of history and progress that we associate with the humanist tradition.  

Great article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way, I think it is useful to dust off ol&#8217; Baudrillard and think a little bit more closely about &#8220;the evil demon of images.&#8221;  I recall reading Baudrillard with much excitement many years ago, but then I kind of stuck him on my shelf and forgot about him.  But lately, when I think about the relationship between programmer/interface/user or that gap between the way things work and the way we use them, Baudrillard seems more important.  If you step back from the visual aspects of Baudrillard, and think about representation in more abstract terms, I think his formulation is relevant (1. it is the reflection of a basic reality.  2. it masks and perverts a basic reality. 3. it masks the absence of a basic reality. 4. it bears no relation to any reality whatever: it is its own pure simulacrum.).  So much of our &#8220;new&#8221; world relies upon this basic disconnect between what we have and how we got it.  It exists at stage four&#8230;  history and the future still exist&#8230;  but the discourse of new media pays no mind, except to say that whatever it is that is being sold at a given moment is &#8220;new&#8221; and &#8220;improved&#8221; (and worth every sacrifice).</p>
<p>You are right, David Parry, &#8220;new&#8221; does not really refer to newness, it simply is an attempt to dodge past debts and future obligations.  It refers to a lack of continuity, a general disruption in the chain of causality.  New media, like the new economy, is not really new in any strict sense.  Rather, these are phenomena that are to be understood as phenomena that exist outside of the long chain of history and progress that we associate with the humanist tradition.  </p>
<p>Great article!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Not So NewDavid Parry / University of Texas at Dallas by William Moner</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Moner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Articles like these are why I enjoy reading and participating in Flow. I do think Dr. Parry raises a valuable point in indicting the usage of the word "new" in relation to the Internet. The body of literature that is emerging in the field of mobile networks, broadband and wireless Internet access, and the influx of smart phones, netbooks and tablets certainly indicates that our usage of the technology in this way is a relatively new phenomenon. (I prefer to think of "new media" as "collaborative media," thereby placing value on usage while lending less favor to the bits and bytes.)

I am one of the "haves;" I'm in a coffee shop on a laptop computer connected to a wireless hotspot, and my Blackberry notifies me about any new message I receive. At the same time as "new" media can be exciting and engaging to an increasing larger audience and a generation of "haves" like me, I wonder whether the "have nots" will understand the impact, the benefits, and the caveats of emerging technology. Thus, I do appreciate Dr. Parry's suggestion of "making it weird" and bringing technological advancement into perspective within a historical and technological context. The opportunities to capture the minds of the younger generation occur within the elementary and secondary educational systems, and by stripping away the "new" aspect of the technology I believe that educators will be better able to bridge the gap between themselves and the students who look at all of the new technology as shiny, fun toys.

When the dust settles, and when wireless connectivity and ubiquitous computing are not "new" anymore, the decisions being made now in the legal and political systems will have a long and enduring impact on how a new set of students encounter the technology. To that end, I agree that the power of the "new" should not overshadow the significance of the individuals, businesses, groups and cultures that both contribute to and use these technologies. 

I am interested in hearing more about the alternatives as Brett suggested. David, thank you for posing an interesting argument in relation to the impact of nomenclature on discussions such as these. I look forward to additional comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Articles like these are why I enjoy reading and participating in Flow. I do think Dr. Parry raises a valuable point in indicting the usage of the word &#8220;new&#8221; in relation to the Internet. The body of literature that is emerging in the field of mobile networks, broadband and wireless Internet access, and the influx of smart phones, netbooks and tablets certainly indicates that our usage of the technology in this way is a relatively new phenomenon. (I prefer to think of &#8220;new media&#8221; as &#8220;collaborative media,&#8221; thereby placing value on usage while lending less favor to the bits and bytes.)</p>
<p>I am one of the &#8220;haves;&#8221; I&#8217;m in a coffee shop on a laptop computer connected to a wireless hotspot, and my Blackberry notifies me about any new message I receive. At the same time as &#8220;new&#8221; media can be exciting and engaging to an increasing larger audience and a generation of &#8220;haves&#8221; like me, I wonder whether the &#8220;have nots&#8221; will understand the impact, the benefits, and the caveats of emerging technology. Thus, I do appreciate Dr. Parry&#8217;s suggestion of &#8220;making it weird&#8221; and bringing technological advancement into perspective within a historical and technological context. The opportunities to capture the minds of the younger generation occur within the elementary and secondary educational systems, and by stripping away the &#8220;new&#8221; aspect of the technology I believe that educators will be better able to bridge the gap between themselves and the students who look at all of the new technology as shiny, fun toys.</p>
<p>When the dust settles, and when wireless connectivity and ubiquitous computing are not &#8220;new&#8221; anymore, the decisions being made now in the legal and political systems will have a long and enduring impact on how a new set of students encounter the technology. To that end, I agree that the power of the &#8220;new&#8221; should not overshadow the significance of the individuals, businesses, groups and cultures that both contribute to and use these technologies. </p>
<p>I am interested in hearing more about the alternatives as Brett suggested. David, thank you for posing an interesting argument in relation to the impact of nomenclature on discussions such as these. I look forward to additional comments!</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Attack of Boss-zilla!” – Female Conflict and Generational Discord&#8230;Hannah Hamad / Massey University by Caroline Leader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the Miranda character is still respected and revered by the audience as the pinnacle of professional womanhood, despite her raging fits and unfair treatment of Andy. After all, the audience revels in the glamorous tight ship that is &lt;em&gt;Vogue&lt;/em&gt; and its captain, Anna Wintour. How does this add to your argument about our conception of women "at the top"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the Miranda character is still respected and revered by the audience as the pinnacle of professional womanhood, despite her raging fits and unfair treatment of Andy. After all, the audience revels in the glamorous tight ship that is <em>Vogue</em> and its captain, Anna Wintour. How does this add to your argument about our conception of women &#8220;at the top&#8221;?</p>
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